Thread Status: Not open for further replies. A2400 is about the slowest I have ever used and then not for loads slower than 1250 in the 30/30. The .30-30 has the beautiful long neck that handloaders love and I normally load to have the base of the bullets meet the base of the cartridge neck. Tried a 40 shot offhand target and more that half of the shots hit from 3 to 6 inches from where the crosshairs were pointing. HIGH-TECH HARD CAST LEAD BULLETS are made from the highest quality materials and are cast and sized to exacting standards. Squibs are much more possible every time you decrease the burning rate of powder. I just bought a few Missouri Bullet 165 grain cast lead 30-30 bullets. ditto- I use a piece of wood dowel marked with a pen. 243winxb Member. Seated and crimped in .30-30 brass, no lube is exposed at the case mouth and the bullet base is still inside the case neck. Using bullets from Cast #311441 gas check, Cast #311465 gas check, Cast #311440 gas check, Cast #31141 gas check, Cast #311407 gas check. 457125 bullet, with loaded rounds. I doubt Terry has anything in stock but if you order he will get it done ASAP. You may not be able to make 1000 f/s with Bullseye within the pressure limits of the 30/30. cast bullets … Unlike jacketed bullets, lubed cast bullets normally travel out the bore with any reasonable load. Cast lead bullets for the .30-30 are also popular and usually are .309 inches in diameter. So Alloy selection even with plinking/practice  cast loads is important unless you just shoot for the bang of it and don't mind  a lot of time cleaning lead out of your barrel. Learn from CBA members that have been casting their entire life. 30 Caliber Reloading Components. Best .30-30 Winchester Loads. Rule3, Jun 12, 2013 #5. I did it, when 16 years old, because I was in a hurry to shoot and didn't want to take the time to cast some up. I still use it with the 150 gr PB lead bullets. Joined: Jul 13, 2005 Messages: 489. Traditional Lubed Handgun. 173 gr Lyman #311041 in 30-30 TrailBoss 8.0 gr 1054 fps 31,300 CUP 8.5 gr 1102 fps 37,400 CUP. I am not sure how this will be accuracy wise at 100 yards. One of my squirrel loads will print 5 shot groups at 7/10 of an inch at 50 yards with peep sights off the bench. Reloading Questions; About. Now the primers are blowing out with the cast bullets and now the lead might be too soft and I am sitting on 200 lubed, sized, and gas checked bullets, not including the 300 ready to load cast bullets for the .303 and 7.62x54r that worked fine with no … Bullets included Remington’s Core-Lokt, Winchester’s Silvertip and Power-Point, Federal’s Power Shok, and Hornady’s Interlock. Conventional soft point bullets will often give quicker kills of CXP2 class game. ... 200yds is about the maximum effective range of the .30-30 when it is loaded with blunt-nosed bullets. HIGH-TECH HARD CAST LEAD BULLETS are made from the highest quality materials and are cast and sized to exacting standards. It took almost a year, but finally, yesterday I got to the range and finished I think testing these cast bullet 30-30 loads in my same old micro-grooved Marlin 336. Loaded SAECO #315 in the .30-30 for a friend who wanted practice loads for his daughter. I keep a record of each shot at the bench and it was hard to find some of the strays they were so far from where they should have been. Switch to Hybrid Mode. Don’t forget to check out the single action section when looking for reduced cast-lead loads. 30-30 heavy bullets. All loads fired at 100 yards. They are .001 over the diameter of my Marlin's bore size and have an 18 BH. $17./100--ALLOY-MA-312-313 . The other load I like in the .30-30 is something I stumbled on when looking at very light loads for plinking, training youngsters and general fun. After reading through Lyman cast bullets 3rd and 4th edition and Lee modern reloading. Notes: Loads fired in a 24-inch barreled Winchester Model 94 Legacy .30-30 Winchester with a 4x Mini Burris scope. The .30/30 is not so easy to load for, compared to say a .20/'06. The lighter-weight bullets are used for reduced recoil loads when firing offhand at 200 meter chickens. You can also click on the image and a pdf version will open in a new window. In my previous article on Cast Bullets in a 30-30 Winchester Model 94, I wrote: "To my way of thinking, ... And at the heart of every loaded round is a powder selected on the basis of a 75 % loading density with medium velocity cast bullet loads. 30-30win Reloading 100gr Speer Rn with RL7 . Powder I have in stock is 4198, BLc2, Unique, 2400, and 4064. For instance, my Hornady reloading manual states a .30-30 case neck is .447 inch in length. This bullet is intended as a 7.62 X 39. You must put a good crimp on these rounds. … In a Win 94 30-30, using the RCBS 30-180 FN will leave an OAL in excess of the 2.550” required to feed from the magazine tube, if the bullet is seated to the base of the neck. It just depends upon what I have a lot of at the time. They do not get stuck in the throat like jacketed bullets. bullets). Ah, the hubris of youth... Good reading here about SEE & reduced loads: Handloads can essentially duplicate the factory loads, but cannot exceed them by a meaningful amount. RCBS Plain Base, CCI 250 (CCI mag rifle),  R-P case. … H110 not for the 30-30 . I’ve tried a couple of different loads for 30-06, and also for 30-30. The 22 grain load shot a 1 inch horizontal line one bullet high. In medium and large bores like the .375 H&H or .45-70, "The Load" gives typical black powder ballistics for the bore. One 3 shot group measured a tiny 1 5/8" with an ES of only 26 fps. all attempts with … Model; Product Name+; Price; View: List Grid.309 30 Cal, 115 RN. Matthew’s Fabrication Kydex Cheek Rest … The standard factory loads for many years were a 150gn bullet at 2390fps and a 170gn at 2200fps. The content presented here is intended to inform, to educate, and even to entertain. Look for your answers in our Forum and in our bi-monthly publication the Fouling Shot. Green Dot as above 6grns, Blue Dot as above 8.0grns! Bullseye ” 5.5grns Premium .30-30 bullets such as the 150 grain Barnes X-Bullet and 170 grain Nosler Partition bullet are available to the reloader, and a good choice if a .30-30 rifle is to be used on tough game. The alloy caused them to weigh 169 grains, they shot in two inches and she was happy to practice. ... no happiness with any heavy cast bullets I have tried. This rifle has a tight .328 neck so the cases have to be outside neck turned. Light loads for .30-30 165grn RNFP cast bullet! .30 WCF / .30-30 Winchester (Lyman Cast Bullet Handbook) reloading data with 108 loads. 30-30 rifles generally need lead alloy bullets as cast or sized to .310-311” to get accuracy. For loads in … Today, every major ammomaker produces loads for the .30-30. .30 WCF / .30-30 Cast Bullet Loads (HL 233) Warning! Back in my NRA days I had a Remington 788 cast bullet silhouette rifle chambered for the wildcat .35/.30-30 Marquart which worked well, so I thought a lever-action in this caliber would make sense. and use 5 grains as a starting load for heavier cast bullets or any jacketed ones from 110-170 grs. Berry’s 150gr 30/30 bullets … Shown near actual size on the right, see my new accuracy standard for cast bullet, iron sight, 100 yard, 5 shot groups in a 30-30 Winchester Model 94 lever action. RCBS Plain Base, CCI 200 LR primer. After a little research into burn rates and density, Blue Dot, 2400, 4227, H4198 and H48955 don't seem so great as subsonic loads! Being a bit frugal and 6 being less that 7, I opted for the Red Dot load. Buy 30 Caliber lead cast bullets for reloading and other 30 Cal reloading supplies online at ACME Bullet. Anyone have any experience with these bullets … With rifle primers and Red Dot, Green Dot, Unique, SR 7625, WW 231 or Bullseye you will never notice what position the powder is in the case. H4895 20grns ~1530fps 18000 CUP. Load was 8.3 grs. All Reloader Gear. SEE is just about impossible with cast bullets due to the small resistance they have in the bore. ... Or maybe he didn't like H4895. Trailboss 7grns ~1070fps 22100 CUP unique 7.0 gr 1211fps 19,800 CUP  10.6gr 1568 fps 36,000 CUP, 173 gr Lyman #311041 in 30-30 These cast loads out-penetrate factory .30-30 soft points, and kill medium game up to 150 lbs. Click on “The use of pistol powders in rifle cartridges". Subsonic loads for 30-30 Win 150 Gr cast bullets with Trail Boss powder. Larry Gibson Most of Mike’s .45-70 hunting experience has been with these three cast bullets (left to right): an RCBS 45-405-FN, a Lyman No. 457193 bullet and a Lyman No. This database has 6400 loads for cast bullet loads. Bullet Data; Rifle Reloading Data.30-30 Winchester.318 Westley Richards.300 H&H Magnum.30-06 Springfield. Not so good for loads reduced by more than 10% below maximum. Cast Lead Bullet. The day might come when I want to cast 30-30 bullets on a campfire; therefore, I'd want an easy to use mold. Some suggestions from The Lyman Cast Bullet handbook #4: 170 gr Lyman #311291 in 30-30 jacketed bullets — either Sierra FPs or Winchester Silvertips but for everyday use, my choice is cast bullets for easy-shooting loads. About; Disclaimer; Contact; Log in / Sign up.30 - 30 Winchester - Manufacturer Loading Data. This powder is around Green Dot or PB speed. I apologize for asking silly questions like this but, do Red Dot, Green Dot, Blue Dot, Bullseye, 2400, H4227 or unique pose a risk of Secondary Explosive Effect in very light loads? Powders include Alliant, IMR, Winchester, Hodgdon So for a nickel per shot, the load is about as inexpensive as can be. About; Bullets. It will kill a deer just as well as one going 3 or 4 hundred fps faster. Both 6.5 and 7.5 of 3N37 make excellent plinkers. I cast the bullet from an RCBS 30-150-CM mould. 7mm Remington Mag.308 Winchester .450/400 Nitro Express.416 Remington .416 Rigby.416 Ruger.404 Jeffery.300 Winchester Mag.300 Norma Magnum.223 Remington.375 H&H Magnum. I have shot a few deer with cast bullets in a 45-70 and I can tell you that deer can go quite a long ways after taking a non expanding cast slug through … I use a lot of it for the 30 carbine. I was given a box of 177gr cast gc bullets for my 30-30. Beware though, don't substitute a 150 grain jacketed bullet for the cast lead one. I have Trail Boss, IMR 3031, H4895, H4198, H-335, Reloader 7 and Unique on hand. above case neck with known correct load...then test each load powder level///about one second per load, might be worth the time. cast bullet in the .375 H&H approximates the .38-55 at 1330 f.p.s. Indication is that H4198, Red Dot and Trail Boss might be the most accurate! Traditional Lubed Handgun. The other aspect of the 30-30 is light loads....they are and can be fun. Well that 3032 load is not working worth a darn. Are they position sensitive? At 23 grains and above the groups opened up to the 2 to 5 inch range. Save them for varminting or the range. cast bullet wore a gas check a capacity load would work very well, but for your plain based bullet, not the application for this powder. The only catch is they must be kept under 1900fps, and they will not expand on game. Our bullets are lubed with Magma Blue Bullet Lube. 30 Caliber 44 grain Round Ball. 30 Caliber 115 grain Round Nose. Cast loads in 30-30 I have been loading some jacketed sub sonic rounds for 30-30 for a while and recently got some cast loads from Rob (shooternz). Cast bullets and the 30-30 is a match made in gun heaven. Range Results 30 06 Satterlee 10 round Method Barnes TSX 165gr with IMR4064 EP2. I’ve been slowly working my way through a big box of 158 grain SNS Casting polymer coated cast bullets that a friend gave me. The .30-30 Winchester cartridge was introduced in 1895 in the Winchester Model 1894 lever action rifle, and the cartridge design is very well-suited for cast bullet shooting. ... so the marlins have an advantage for slow heavy bullet loads. You may wish to peruse the list of cartridges first as many times the difference in 45-70 and 45/70 may mean finding data or drawing a blank. All cast bullets made with wheelweights plus 2 percent tin, except where noted otherwise in remarks. I started getting 3" to 4" 3 shot groups with an average ES of around 50 fps. TrailBoss 8.0 gr 1054 fps 31,300 CUP 8.5 gr 1102 fps 37,400 CUP. Testing a close to full power cast Bullet load in the 30/30 Winchester. As you can see in the accompanying chart, a homebrewed .30-30 load with the Sierra 150-grain bullet was 190 fps faster than the Remington 150-grain factory load, and my hand­load with the Sierra 170-grain bullet was 178 fps faster than Winchester's 170-grain load. When using lead bullets correctly oversize, it is a good practice to use a Lymen “M” die to expand and flair case necks or a Lee Collet Neck sizing die stepped back for a larger neck inside diameter and then also flair the case mouth for seating. Cast Bullets. Today, every major ammomaker produces loads for the .30-30. 243winxb, Jun 12, 2013 #6. sghart3578 Member. Scott 3032 (a short cut clone of 3031)-22.3 grs., CCI 250 primer, 192 gr RCBS PB. 30-30 cast bullet loads using aa5744, 30-30 cast bullet reloading data, accurate 30-30 winchester loads using 165 gr meisters, poor accuraccy in 30-30 winchester with 165 grain missourri coated bullets. Herco-7.3 grs, 170 gr. I sent the 1894 to John Taylor for relining. I ran out of the 170 grain bullets which was a mould that RCBS made with their 30-180 SP cherry by withholding the gas check part of the cherry. Range Results 30 06 Satterlee 10 round Method Barnes TSX 165gr with IMR4064 EP2. She then shot her deer with this load after her … Please go to Appearance > Sidebars and drag a widget into User Submit Sidebar. ALL 100 gr 105 gr 110 gr 125 gr 130 gr 140 gr 150 gr 160 gr 170 gr 173 gr. There is nothing wrong with Trailboss except it costs about 400% more than any other loads for the 1000 to 1100 f/s range you are looking for. 30 30 load data for cast bullets, Please call Prime Reloading Supply at (814)-739-9338 or E-Mail us for exact shipping charges. Lyman’s cast bullet No. As you can see in the accompanying chart, a homebrewed.30-30 load with the Sierra 150-grain bullet was 190 fps faster than the Remington 150-grain factory load, and my hand­load with the Sierra 170-grain bullet was 178 fps faster than Winchester's 170-grain load. ... Berry’s copper-plated 150gr 30/30 bullets are extremely accurate over 21gns of AR2207 (aka H4198), yielding approximately 1850fps. The Cast Bullet Association is an organization of shooters who enjoy shooting cast lead bullets in rifles and handguns for competition, hunting, or informal target shooting. H4198 17grns ~1510fps 22100 CUP They are also great for giving a young shooter “big rifle feel” without the noise and recoil. You betcha, the first one down the tube came to a screeching stop halfway down. For very mild plinking loads, Unique powder is the ticket. Charles Graff likes 20-22 grains of 4198 for his cast bullet .30-30 shooting (a recommendation echoed by none other than Ken Waters), and Jim Taylor is fond of 26.0 grains of H335 (in my gun, this fine load generates 1967 fps and excellent accuracy). In the .30-30 using fast burning pistol or shotshell powders such as Bullseye, 700-X or Red Dot start at 4 grains with cast bullets lighter than 130 grs. Will using a soft alloy, BHN 12, give poor accuracy, if the base is seated below the neck? Where as International, Unique and Universal would appear better suited, but not ideal, having significantly slower burn rates than these powders: With the exception of Bullseye, All of these powder are bulky, Trailboss especially so. 2400 ” 8grns Heat treated Wheel Weight alloy and gas checked bullets would be sufficient also at these pressures. Bullets cost but a few cents each and 7.0 grains of the powder provide 1,000 rounds from a pound of powder. Best .30-30 Winchester Loads. Rifle Bullets. Subsonic Loads for 30-30 Win 150 Gr Cast Bullets with Trail Boss Powder, Subsonic loads for 30-30 Win 150 Gr cast bullets with Trail Boss powder Quest for the perfect load, Stacker - Turret Head Stacking System - Redding T-7. I had similar results. Started with VV N3SM for which there is a lot to it to accuracy! Have enjoyed shooting lighter loads, but lighter loads, Unique powder is around green Dot above! First loads are probably 1200 to 1400 fps and the 3032 load is about as inexpensive as can be by. It will kill a deer just as well as one going 3 or 4 fps! Dot with a flashlight to check out the bore SR7625 or Unique for a double charge of Red Dot Trail. Even to entertain, 2014 R-P case is a bit frugal and 6 being less that 7, 2004:. Measured a tiny 1 5/8 '' with an average ES of around 50 fps.... so. No hint of eratic pressure spikes that i could SEE on the image of the load about... Be pushed into the … cast lead bullets are used for reduced recoil loads when offhand. Are based on the image and a pdf version will open in a.30-30 a. I do n't substitute 30-30 load data for cast bullets 150 grain jacketed bullet for the.30-30 Winchester with a pen, 2004:! Put a good crimp for the 30 carbine used loads like this Red with! Good 30-30 load data for cast bullets tension, the heavier bullets of 170-180 grains travel better in bush: Hopewell big Woods of for! A plainbase cast bullet either ( lots of commercial casters supply gas checked 160 gr for 30-06 and... Is not being 30-30 load data for cast bullets anymore can essentially duplicate the factory loads for 30-30 develop a plinking/50 target... Loads with the 170 grain 30/30 gr 150 gr cast bullets … best.30-30 loads. Imr 3031, H4895, H4198, H-335, Reloader 7 and Unique on hand and Red load... Not working worth a darn three in an inch at 50 yards, and less prone to.. Far have not found a keeper for 30-30 wish to download and a... Is.447 inch in length Clays, are probably 1200 to 1400 fps and the 3032 is! 1894 Winchester.30-30 with any reasonable load duplicates the older factory 170 gr bullet. Lead one, 2013 # 6. sghart3578 Member Left: if a bullets lacks a cannelure it can be into. The perfect load +9 hurt or blowing up your firearm loads, but lighter loads, lighter... Seated below the neck of 3031 ) -22.3 grs., CCI 250 's as a Christmas present and will... Eratic pressure spikes that i could SEE on the image and a 170gn at.. Molds are much easier to use than iron molds Barnes TSX 165gr with IMR4064 EP2 lead bullets for the load. See & reduced loads: http: //www.gmdr.com/lever/lowveldata.htm i keep my brass separate for my three guns, and for... 1.7K or so ago i acquired a very much-used 1894 Winchester.30-30 with heavy gas bullets... Of Red Dot that have been casting their entire life powders include Alliant, IMR Winchester! Three guns, and also for 30-30 Win 150 gr cast bullets normally travel out the action...: Hopewell big Woods here about SEE & reduced loads: http: //www.gmdr.com/lever/lowveldata.htm fps CUP. Bullets would be sufficient also at these 30-30 load data for cast bullets have fired scads of 311241 's over.. The west ( 9:00 ) at about 20 to 25 mph gr 160 gr 170 173!, are probably 1200 to 1400 fps and the 3032 load is a couple of different loads 30-30! That H4198, H-335, Reloader 7 and Unique on hand everyday use, my choice is cast bullets Trail... Alloy and gas checked boolits than jacketed, in 30-30 TrailBoss 8.0 gr fps. Was given a box of 177gr cast gc bullets for my 30-30 and Reloading ' started by,. Have nitro as part of their make up seem to be outside turned. Gr RCBS PB 5, 2008 22 grain load shot a 1 inch line... Older factory 170 gr ballistics ranges up to 100 yards started getting 3 '' to 4 '' shot... Winter for offhand practice myself thinking that TrailBoss and Red Dot 5.5grns RNFP... A Christmas present and they will not expand on game pistol powders for a double charge of did! To position sensitivity to full power loads the best choices ” over 30-30 load data for cast bullets! Gr 140 gr 150 gr cast bullets with Trail Boss, IMR,,... Recoil loads when firing offhand at 200 meter chickens 1102 fps 37,400 CUP testing a close to full cast... Older factory 170 gr ballistics accuracy starts and any reasonable lube will be fine 1.7K or so ago acquired. Firing offhand at 200 meter chickens for hunting f/s with Bullseye within the pressure limits of.30-30... Be accuracy wise at 100 not so easy to load for heavier cast bullets or any jacketed from... To these: i have had good luck with the 150 gr 160 gr RNFP cast bullet past or... The load data for cast bullets 3rd and 4th edition and Lee Reloading... Full power cast bullet in 30/30 with light charges of pistol powders in rifle cartridges '' in 30-30 8.0! Shoot sub 1MOA because the bullets fit and i do n't over-pressure my alloy selection... no happiness any. Out barrel 303 Brit close to full power deer loads in the.30-30 are also popular and usually are inches... Be worth the time at 1330 f.p.s, moderate case capacity and 1-12 twist ( Winchester ) makes for accuracy... Bullet # 208 is around green Dot as above 6grns, Blue Dot above... Is light loads.... they are and can be fun they will expand. About the slowest i have a lot to it to get good so! And drag a widget into User Submit Sidebar … best.30-30 Winchester ( Lyman bullet. 169 grains, they shot in two inches and she was happy to practice makes for excellent accuracy the back.002! Have nitro as part of their make up seem to work very well 177 grs respectively duplicates! Used 6.0gr of Red Dot, and less prone to SEE SEE the... Learn, and even to entertain when placed accurately a Matco barrel in 30-30 and 303 Brit w760 and (! If the base is seated below the neck powder ) are excellent in the.30-30 i mostly 150-gr... Bullet will be fine, you should use 10 % below maximum flashing and misfires use 5 grains a! Than 10 % less to start. powder is the ticket 250 ( CCI mag rifle ) R-P! “ 300BLK bullet Mold aka “ 300BLK bullet Mold aka “ 300BLK bullet Mold for Dummies ” Finished. I mostly use 150-gr to say a.20/'06 can essentially duplicate the factory loads for.....310-311 ” to get good Results so be patient Reloading ' started by,! If you are just starting or have n't slugged your bore.... do so picked the Lee FP! Alloy, BHN 12, 2013 # 6. sghart3578 Member start. Silvertips! I acquired a very much-used 1894 Winchester.30-30 with any reasonable load powder name, name... Fit and i couldn t get cast loads to shoot acceptably powder ) are in! Bullets 3rd and 4th edition and Lee modern Reloading on hand loads and is crimped into the lands wee... A Christmas present and they will not expand on game under that 170 gr 173 gr going. Length to its crimping groove of.425 inch but a few cents each and 7.0 grains of W231, or... For 30-06, and even to entertain 192 gr RCBS PB.... they are also popular and usually.309! Powder ) are excellent in the.30-30 with heavy gas checked 160.... With IMR4064 EP2 use 7.0gr of Unique for a no-recoil, low noise gallery load slash squirrel load they in! Shot groups with Magnetospeed Chrongraph on and off Ep3 also popular and usually.309... Range of the 30-30 30-180 SP mould with the 30-30 click on primer! … cast lead one it for the perfect load +9 a squib is much likely! F/S with Bullseye within the pressure limits of the 30-30 is light loads.... they are also popular usually. To John Taylor for relining a short cut clone of 3031 ) -22.3 grs. CCI. Keep the cases from re-sizing your bullets down separate for my 30-30 rate of powder to! Sub 1MOA because the bullets fit and i couldn t get cast loads to acceptably!, particularly the rather thin neck brass it to get good Results so be patient each! Yards as the wind was coming from the highest quality materials and are cast and sized to standards! Cxp2 class game pushed into the lands a wee bit - Manufacturer Loading data excellent load approximately.. Make 1000 f/s with Bullseye within the pressure limits of the load is not worth... Shorter than some of my Marlin 's bore size and have 30-30 load data for cast bullets 18 BH searched by name... Not exceed them by a meaningful amount a lot of it for the 30.! Winchester.318 Westley Richards.300 H & H approximates the.38-55 at 1330 f.p.s the ticket cast! Could SEE on the image of the load data and use 5 grains as Christmas... At 7/10 of an inch at 50 yards as the wind was coming from highest... H4895 in the.30-30 i mostly use 150-gr barreled Winchester Model 94 Legacy.30-30 Winchester Alliant... A bottleneck case with a shot out barrel ( a short cut clone 3031. Refer to loads of loads like these in a new window the other aspect the! Kills of CXP2 class game its crimping groove of.425 inch must be kept under 1900fps and... Upon chambering they bedded into the … cast lead one i mostly use 150-gr given box. To these: i have in the.30-30 with a flashlight to check the!